force collins, colorado, john on our independent line. you are on with tavis smiley and cornel west. >> caller: hey, guys, you know, i watch this, and i work with a lot of people who are very i'd say right-wing kind of people. and their view on poverty is that it's just a bunch of shiftless people who don't want to get out there and get a job, and they just want to live off the government, and that's all they want. you know, and i think i'm referencing this because i think we really need as a nation -- because that's not true. and you know it and i know it. there's tons of people like that first lady that called. she's put herself through college, she's putting her daughter through college, and she's making, what, $13 an hour? you know, we need to put a real face on poverty, and it isn't those people, and it isn't a little shot at acorn, you know, one guy going in there for ten seconds creating stirs. we really need to get out there and show these people who believe everybody's shiftless. because i see this all the time. i'm what you call